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Site Owner Posts: 100 |
Hey guys, In the interest of keeping TAD alive and following on from Minuses idea. One decent solution would be for each clan to bring their member numbers to 13. In order to do this they would have to recruit some noobs with potential. The benefit to the community is great.
|V| at the moment has enough players and we are a young clan still learning how to play together. Cotf are in a similar position at the moment and Gag could do with a couple more active players. All the other clans have seen a decrease in their active players and hence are lacking in numbers in order to make the community and the league a better place. I realize this is not an issue for |V| because we are a new clan and older more dominant clans could see their ladder standings drop, if new players come into their clans. I do feel though that this could be a very positive move for the community and now we have a chance to begin growing TAD again. Id love to hear from other people on this issues and i do realize there would be many problems with the idea so please don't ruin this thread by slating it. Positive input would be great and if the other clans feel its a good idea I can sort out some sort of structure for moving forward. Anyways only putting this out there for now, let me know if your clan would commit to this idea. Thx Fred | |
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Limited Member Posts: 64 |
I support this wholeheartedly. If you care about the future of TAD on gameranger, you should too. Put aside your egos, I know every clan wants to be the super elite tightknit killng force that all other clans bow before, but if things keep up the way they are going, there will be no clans left to fight. Imagine how awesome it would be if |V|, |ƒ|, [£eg¡øn], and [GÅG] would each recruit 3-4 vanilla noob players and groom them to be skilled players, and eventually convince them to buy TAD. Sure, the level of general skill in each clan would go down, but it would be a long term investment to ensure the survival of TAD on gameranger. Clan matches could be designed so that newer players would fight other new players, and the more experienced players could still have their games. Also, everyone needs to start acting more mature. All these petty grudges that people hold are the number one obstacle to cooperation, and part of the reason why people leave Gameranger. The Stranger, for instance, left because he just got sick of all the stupid petty nonsense. [£eg¡øn] pledges solidarity, Fred. | |
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Administrator Posts: 250 |
ok well if this is going to happen we need to hold off on the fanpatch. ALL TWC TORRENTS DONT WORK. believe me when i say this because ive been looking non stop for a friend of mine. We are going to have to gain these guy's trust in order for them to go out and buy twc. IF HASTINGS OR ANY ONE WITH CODING EXPERIENCE CAN HELP SEED OR CREATE A TWC TORRENT FOR THE GREATER COMMUNITY, that would be great. sorry about the caps but thats the only real issue at hand. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 64 |
And all the clans would have to be in on it. We can't have bullshit like this: Clans A, B, and C agree to take on low skill players, but clan D doesn't, and all the good players from clans A, B, and C join clan D. Then we're all screwed. | |
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Administrator Posts: 100 |
I support this wholeheartedly. I've been pushing for something like this from the very start, and I will thank you for taking the iniative and posting this. I can also help with the torrent problem, if it becomes nessesary. | |
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Administrator Posts: 259 |
I've played other games where a clan would have a special recruits clan, usually containing members of less skill put on a fast-track towards improving. im not saying we'd have to do a |V-Recruit|, just simply not even people in AOE mac for that but its something that i wanted to share. | |
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Administrator Posts: 248 |
I do support this as well. I know when I first started AOE I joined a No Rush clan called SIR. They developed me into an average player and grew as I played with Stranger and all of those guys. Now, in V, I'm still getting better. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 288 | yeah i like this idea, although im not surwe how well clans will hold out on promises. i know that i kind of tread thwe line between vanilla pro and twc+patch decent so clans could also receuit people lile that who arent necessarily noobs or experts, but could dd to the game. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 117 |
GAG has always recruited players who were average since it was created. We started as a "noob" clan. Got flamed by many that are still in our community. I like to look at Shorty who asked for months to get into GAG before we voted him in. He got in as an average player and is now a good player. So we wont be taking in 3 or 4 members at once but we will continue to look for players with a good attitude like Shorty. Those type of players are my favorite to game with. They dont flame when their house is getting sieged by an explorer. Stop getting so worked up over the petty stuff people. We have one clan member that only plays vanilla because the TAd community turned him off. I have definately been guilty of being harsh on these threads. Only on the threads though, not in the game. I need to tone it down and will.
So does everyone in this thread or read this thread really want to help our community. Start kicking or blocking the jerks in our community. Speak up when a player flames another for poor play. If we did it as a "community" these jerks would have to stop or just leave AOE. I didnt see any one of us speak up for X-factor who is new to the gr community and a damn good player. The best nilla player who is not in the TAD community. He just asked a question, thats it.
I dont care who the player is but if they are in my room and they start flamming another they get kicked after the game. I did this to Ben £egion one time and u know what happend. 4 players left the room.
Stranger said he got tired of the crap on gr, I told him thats what the BLOCK button is for. Start using it and your experience on gr will be much better. Everyone liked being in his rooms cause they didnt lagg. Imagine what kind of impact that would have had. So i agree about getting players from nilla but dont bring the crap from our community with u over there. Teach them, dont flame them. The fatty grudge will stay. If we stopped that then the memory of Yankee will die with it. GAG likes Yankee. Plus fatty most of the time laughs at it. He doesnt take it personal. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
you know, i feel like some strange sage. made of iron and magic. born in the forest. that kind of thing. i said eons ago that this would happen. not only would numbers of active players dimish in general, but gradually the better players would all flock to either one clan or the other, essentially making clans and any sort of healthy competition pointless. cotf imploded for this very reason. faith did this as well, but no one really wants to admit it, or let it pass and move on. gag is in flux right now, but again, this pretty much happened here as well. none of that is a shot at anyone or any clan, so don't take it as such. if this is going to work, this will take concessions in addition to fred's and other's suggestions...concessions people may not necessarily like. but really, trust gabe. the concession, at this point, with gr being SUCH a small community, would be to limit clan numbers to -at max- 10, and downsizing players accordingly. not to toot our horn, but even when all legion members were active, we were less than 10 and caused PLENTY of good trouble for people to tackle. i have even purposely NOT gone after players in the past, hoping they'd either go with one of the other clans and make for some good competition OR...go off and start their own thing. V is a perfect example of this. yes, i'm a machiavellian. love speaks for legion, fredders. this is a good idea and we will commit. | |
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Site Owner Posts: 100 |
Ok Guys, I have deleted the threads that brought us off the subject line in order to keep this thread relevant and to the point. I feel the issue of blocking and flaming at noobs is a different issue which can be addressed in another thread but for this one please keep it to the point.
Current standings
If your clan is willing to take part and add between 2 and 5 newer players to your clan please post here over the next day or so. If we get agreement, I will post a thread requesting people who are interested in joining some of the top clans and buying TAD, to post their names on the site. Then the recruitment battle can start! Please keep the answers short and to the point. After all this move could really be the best thing the TAD community has seen in a long time. Just think, more games, more competition, less of a gap between clans. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 96 |
I don't think GaG is on the fence here regarding the main idea of this. I think anyone with sense should be and is looking for potentially good talent to bring in. We may not join a program or something where we take 2-5 players guaranteed (I don't think we are ready to yield our clan govt to this emerging sort of E.U. on GR just yet =P), but we will definitely be on the lookout for new players. If we can't find anyone we like or those who we do like are taken by other clans, I don't think we will make a decision that will be detrimental to the clan in the long run. (and I'm not talking skillwise here, but just a players quality in general) But I am fairly sure that the members of GaG have no issue with trying to expand the clan and therefore the tad community, but a little more on our terms maybe. | |
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Site Owner Posts: 100 |
I understand where your coming from Kutuzov. i know u want to protect the fabric of the clan but by opting out of some radical solution leaves all the other clans at a disadvantage. The fact of the matter is TAD is loosing players eg. Koric Stranger TKDdans Hastings and many more are coming on less and less. The main reason for this is because they stopped being challenged by the game, due to the fact of their dominance and little competition. I really think you guys should have a chat in private and consider what's better for the community and not just the clan. After all the solution is not too radical at all. All we are saying is that u take between 2 and 5 people to your clan to train and develop. Is that really going to dilute your clan by that much? The other option is to keep going the way you are and over time the game dies. Im not too sure about you but my average waiting time for a game these days is about 30 to 40 mins. Mainly when this game starts its a one sided game with little or no enjoyment. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 2 |
Well I'm speaking on behalf of myself and Mr Love when I say this but I really think the only solution is to just to go back and play vanilla for a while if you're running out of TAD opponents. If you can't beat em join em (and them beat em.) I really can't foresee ƒaith growing to 13 as that's just too many! We've tried in the past to take players whom we thought had potential and could be trained up, but dam it was tough to pick em. However, we'll consider recruiting another 1 or 2 players in the next week and we'll see how that goes. I'm not sure they'll be noobs though, that's just too hurting. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
recriutment battle?! you're on! i will give handjobs and $5 to anyone who joins. call or raise, boys. call or raise. | |
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Administrator Posts: 250 |
GAG has been looking at one player in particular this past month from nilla, who i might add is a novice at the game we love. and my friend tribal rage strictly plays nilla. He has been telling a lot of nilla users that tad has the better game play. THEY DONT NEED TO BUY TAD THEY JUST NEED TO BUY TWC. there is a torrent for tad, but again i cant find one for TWC. GAG has been on its toes looking over the fence at nilla, trust us when we say its going to be hard to add on members of lesser skill. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 262 |
me and eddi in my clan are members of lesser skill and we both have tad and twc (althought my patch is messed right now) | |
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Limited Member Posts: 65 |
Hmm.. i think button is right, we dont want to get so big anymore, tho some members left for good so there are some free spots, and the problem why ƒ isnt too active in the clanleague yet is maybe due to timezones, most of our active members are not from US while the rest of the clans have most of their members there. I wanted to announce tho we have 1 more member now again, we thought he was gone but he suddenly came back, its |ƒ| Scotchie, he said he would be active again next month. great news, tho he wasnt here in a whole year has no TAD nor TWC and never played it, so i think we'll have 2 teach him anyways, id have 2 more ppl in mind that i "would" recruit" these 2 need practice and lessons as well, im not sure if one of these 2 is active enough, to be recruited, let me know if really every clan is gonna do that and ill tell you their names. And how about if we dont count these games for the clanleague, i mean if we recruit new members just to save the community, they might not represent the clans skills, so how about we teach em BEFORE they can play clanleague games?? The clans decide on their own when they should play CL or when not. Before anyone says something, i didnt say we WILL recruit anyone, just that id have 2 ppl in mind, dont blame me if we dont take em. Cheers Mr. Love - Orgi | |
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Limited Member Posts: 64 |
I am proud to announce that Legion has recruited Magnificent/Conqueror to our ranks as part of our program to encourage TAD activity. You boys better get your act together or we'll get all the up and coming players! I think it's time now to go among the vanilla players and get a list of potential candidates. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 96 |
GaG is debating on the private site atm. Definitive answer coming soon | |
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