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Limited Member Posts: 13 |
Yeah, so the idea was brought up that, we could have a centralized website for all clans by Mr. Love... Now I'm just curious but what would all of your opinions on that be? Basically, each individual clan would have their own group of forums, so it wouldn't necessarily be all public... or at least a category for each clan. That way we could all be centralized as a GameRanger community on one unique website... such as GameRangerClans.com (that is if that's even an open domain name) we would still need donations which I'm sure our fellow GameRanger friends would help with. I'm just putting the idea out there... I wouldn't be able to host it because I'm underage, but I certainly would partake in it if the help was needed. | |
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Vclan is already paying for this website. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 13 |
I know that haha, I dunno where I'm going with this. | |
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Administrator Posts: 73 |
I think vclan.net already is one and it should be. It doesn't matter that a single clan founded the website, it is more important, that everyone is benefit cause of it. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
i agree with basher. a centralized site has been attempted several times before and it never really got off the ground. v site functions as that right now and for the most part, i think it's a good thing. the only real issues are that while the site is implementing more and more things focusing on a cetralized community here- the wiki (which at this point is awful), the general openness of the boards, etc. the site is still governed/ moderated exclusively by v clan members, and often times ridiculous, idiotics ones. no offense to the good eggs. it's a trade off- i'm sure everyone who uses this site is grateful for the space and i'm not suggesting that non v members suddenly be given access to editing the site (that would be silly) BUT if our community has decided to congregate here it would be nice if there were some sort of community-wide balance, particularly on the boards. ...much the same as on wikipedia where changes/ moderation must go through a series of approvals by different parties. it's not just the wiki staff that approves defitions, etc. maybe the answer is seperating the boards- v maintains their own, small board which is moderated closely and it's topics pertain only to v...and another, general space board that could be moderated by several people from the community- this would also include the wiki and any other community wide resources. the v board would be generally closed/private, except for one or two open threads pertaining to recruiting, etc. threads that already are happening now. think about it, boys. adding another board to the domain wouldn't be too much work and would start to disintegrate the politics here. i think it would also help with the cluttering of v's threads and the inevitible over-moderating that happens. | |
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Administrator Posts: 76 |
Gabe for moderator! | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
i have no interest in V's business, but when the boards are used by everyone, for general purpose and are moded with great prejudice by only V members, there is a huge conflict of interest. that's all i'm saying. the general board? i'm an excllent mod, and have quite a bit of experience. i'd be happy to do it. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
oh, and drag is handsome. | |
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Administrator Posts: 259 |
@Gabriel There is no approval system for the wiki. Obviously you've never made an edit on it. We do not process any of it. If you think it sucks, you are more than welcome to make corrections and additions. As for moderation. I understand you want an open and multi-clan community. Unfortunately, you guys aren't paying anything, yet are receiving a fully paid service. Additionally, we do not moderate anywhere near the strictness of many game clan websites. Because our community is small and centralized, we promote activity with extremely low moderation due to the fact that we simply want traffic! Personally, I've made less than 4 deletions out of the thousands of posts here and have spent much more time with organization of this forum and website. As always, any 'specific' complaints will be considered if brought up. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 143 |
3 of which were mine.........:unsure: | |
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Administrator Posts: 248 |
In addition to what Voz already said, I don't think I've deleted more than one post on these forums. It's important to remember that this is the |V| Clan website and is paid in full by Fred. As a moderator I can guarantee that I completely think through my decision in regards to deleting. Now for the "general forum" that you all are speaking of, we already have that. The "General" topic allows for any and all centralization for GameRanger, with the moderation of Voz, Viz, Fred, and myself. I have moderated many of forums, including some on the -}GoD{- website (where we are generously allowed vent channels) and I am an admin on Ventrilo as well. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
well then em, you're not getting it what i'm saying. i find it quite amusing that voz throws the whole money thing our face, yet isn't paying anything himself. unless what emerica said isn't true. communication problems? i am very grateful to fred for his contribution- but let's be real, i'm also pretty well aware of what a simple domain name and hosting service costs. if i throw in a buck every month, can i have what i'm asking for? so let's not make this about money, becasue in that regard, we're on equal footing- you lucked out by being in the same clan as the guy who did all this work and put up the money. don't flatter yourself. i have no desire to get invovled with the wiki at this point- it would turn into an edit war. the smart thing to do would have been to collect one person from all clans mentioned, then three or four senior gr members and put together some semblence of a history- not a personzlied account from whichever dumb dumb got to the wiki first. em, you have a point about the general section of the boards, but i don't think you understand what i was saying. the fact that it is moded solely by V members makes it not 'quite' an open, general space. if gameranger had proper boards, we'd use them and they'd either be moded by several of us, or by the gr staff...either way, they'd rarely get edited as thoroughly as these boards. and i'm sorry, but i don't belive either of you about only deleting one or two posts here and there. and this isn't about off topic posts, either. i've seen large, general sweeps of topics. as ridiculous and infuriating as some posters are, you can't play god. | |
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Administrator Posts: 259 |
fred pays for the site and manage it. its not just a money thing. its a time thing. im contributing my time and you are not. so frankly you shouldnt deserve any moderation. Im not throwing the money issue to you as if it was alot of money. Im just telling you that you are simply a user that talks alot but doesn't act on it. (see last paragraph as to how to act on your words) the wiki is an open and free service because thats what a wiki is. it has worked for wikipedia wonderfully and you are suggesting for us to change it to a way of a few representatives. not only is that impossible or extremely time consuming to organize and code, but that is simply not the type of website we are promoting. we want an open one. regarding "playing god", once again I only deleted 3 or 4 posts during my entire moderatorship... out of thousands. I am not the only moderator nor am I the most active one. anything that i personally take issue with, with the assumption that the post is either in the off topics area or is on topic of the thread, i will address straight forward and not delete. you are simply saying that you think i deleted more with no true knowledge of the case. and lastly, gabriel you are absolutely allowed to create your own website, do the complete web layout, and operate all the extra services. landers, deathboy, and pepper are excellent examples of people who took action and did this. I have been promoting other clans to set up sites for themselves. like you said, its not alot of money. go ahead and bring activity and grow a community. remember, i receive a very small direct benefit from doing all the building of this website. and that small benefit, moderatorship, is something i have excercised very conservatively. trust me, if i were acting as a moderator on most pc game forums, you would be banned by now for excessive cussing, flaming, trolling, and spamming. but as ive stated, im trying keep this site as open as possible. btw, I believe the monetary cost is $100 per year for this service if you wanted to get a head start on ruling your own land gabriel. good luck finding a staff. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
wow, it looks like you worked really on hard on those paragraphs. i read the first three sentences, sorry. but nice job! you whine a lot. and take everything, very, very, very seriously. always. every time. like you have a conpulsion. like you can't help it. like like like like are you ok? is there something you want to tell us? or your friends? or your mom? we're here for you. | |
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Administrator Posts: 248 |
@ gab: all good man, but what exactly are you trying to achieve through this "general forum"? It seems like you have an idea that in the V clan we like to control all that goes on in the general section. honestly, i rarely look at the exact posts on the general section. I get a summary and if i'm not interested then i don't read and move onto the next post. if a troublesome post is brought to my attention then i without a doubt check it and make sure it's suitable for GR. If it's a flame on me, then ill let it stay there, if it's a racial issue or something of that higher regard then i will remove it. We aren't running a tyranny, nor is this an open democracy. politics removed or not removed from this situation produces the same answer, the V clan has this website for CLAN use and for the games. That's how forums work, clans make them for clan activities and then some. this is also relevant to this topic: http://gagclan.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/2031393-centralized-website-for-all-gameranger-clans?page=last lets move past the issue? | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
ok ok, i lied and read part of the last paragraph too. your time? all your hard work 'building the website? do you actually believe the bullshit you're spewing? i'm well aware of what landers and deathboy have been doing. you? the fuck do you do? nothing but stalk. you're a real fucking stalker, you know that you also, need to learn what the words trolling and flaming really mean. and spaming? hardly. and who says cussing? grandmas say cussing. youre warped. come on, reply. write me another fucking book. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 196 |
i like you, em
honestly, i rarely look at the exact posts onthe general section. I get a summary and if i'm not interested then idon't read and move onto the next post. if a troublesome post isbrought to my attention then i without a doubt check it and make sureit's suitable for GR. If it's a flame on me, then ill let it staythere, if it's a racial issue or something of that higher regard then iwill remove it.' that is exactly what a mod should be doing. WE'RE GOOD DAWG WE'RE GOOD. | |
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Limited Member Posts: 143 |
What gabe wants people to know, is that you need to keep your paragraphs short and sweet for people like me and gabe where we jsut get tired of reading so we stop and only get 3 sentences in......So buttom line GET TO THE POINT. Thanks. | |
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Administrator Posts: 100 |
If your too lazy to read the posts, don't bother responding. You just end up looking stupid. And Gabe, -
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Administrator Posts: 248 |
It's important to keep in my that the forums are here for the GR community, seeing as the game and the clan are tied through that sole reason. We encourage people to post what ever they want on the general forums, keeping in mind that all posts should be thought through and not childish like rants. And just smoke some weed, it'll take care of the rest lol | |
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