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Barack Hussein Obama has come to this country, and to the executive branch to divide. He has come here, to conquer. He has come here, to disregard the Constitution and the American People. He has come to shove unconstitutional social policies which force us to purchase a service from the government with reconciliation. He has used reconciliation, a method for passing tax cuts and budget legislation, for shoving down unconstitutional, highly debated social policy that is questioned by his own party. He has been influenced by radicals like Reverand Wright, the un-repentant terrorist, Bill Aires. He has appointed cabinet members like Van Burn, the communist that was in charge of the green energy department of Obama's cabinet. Why did Obama appoint this man, who admits that he believes in communism. Why is this when his vice president, Joe Biden says "We will control the insurance companies". They say that this bill is to insure people who are currently uninsured. That's why Medicaid was founded 45 years ago. That failed, the Post Office failed, Am-Trak failed, Social Security failed. Do you see how well the government runs their businesses? The problem is that the government does not need to make a profit. This healthcare bill will put private insurance out of business. Obama believes in big government, the type that Europe has tried. Europe has failed with socialism. Now Obama is trying to ruin the greatest nation there has ever been. He is giving away welfare in the name of "economic stimulus". If you want to stimulate the economy, you cut back spending and lower taxes. This gives employers money to hire employees, which actually creates jobs. When stimulus money is going to Harvard University so they can develop robotic bees, it is a waste. When money is going to study pig manure, it is a waste. But Obama doesn't care about this though. This is his goal, in fact, maybe he even wants a Republican Congress in November because then he can blame them when he runs for re-election in 2012, that is, if there still are elections. I am not joking when I say that. Rome is burning, and Obama, his administration, and the Democrats are looking for a bag of marshmallows. | |
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1.) He was born in this country, so he was already here. 2.) The House passed the Bill, and it has yet to be voted upon in the Senate. 3.) This is the Democratic process. Bills sometimes get passed through. It happens. 4.) Why are you so intent on bringing up someone's middle name? It's clear you're trying to insure fear with the Hussein comment. Not necessary. 5.) If you honestly think we won't be able to vote in 2012, then you're just an idiot. Just because a bill that was passed that insures people get medical coverage doesn't mean you're voting rights have been taken away. That's just a ridiculous comment. | |
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1.) We cannot be sure he was born in this country, he has yet to show any birth certificate. Why wouldn't he show his birth certificate if he really has one. He has absolutely nothing to lose. 2.) We know that the bill will pass in the Senate now. They have 59 votes so they need one more, unless the unconstitutionally use reconciliation, which they will use. 3.) Bills get passed through. This is common sense we all know this. It's a matter of whether its done constitutionally or not which makes the difference. 4.) How am I so intent on bringing up his middle name? I mentioned it twice if I'm not mistaken and it is his middle name, right? Aren't we allowed to talk about people's middle names and whether an ex middle east dictator has the same name. 5.) If it actually was a bill that insured everyone would get medical coverage than maybe I wouldn't be so worried. But if the bill forces you to buy medical coverage and it doesn't make United States Congressmen buy it, I really don't know what they're going to do next. Especially when they use reconciliation, which is used for budget legislation, to pass social legislation that 60%-70% of America doesn't want. Even liberal CNN will tell you that! What you didn't cover though is the radicals he has been around for so long, the reckless spending, the fact that the government hasn't run one successful business, and the un-constitutional legislation that this administration is shoving down our throats. Oh also one thing I forgot to add was his strong ties with ACORN which supports child prostitution and voter fraud. And the fact how ACORN supported his campaign greatly and received stimulus funding. | |
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Don't start another obama thread... | |
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I wish there wouldn't be need for another JG, but iCourt still persists that Obama is our savior and I need to show him and all the radicals in this gaming community the corruption on behalf of the democrats in Washington. | |
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First of all, where did you get that european "socialism" failed. Just think about numbers, GDP/capita is lower in europe compared to usa, but there is LESS poverty, BETTER medial care, LESS criminality and BETTER public educational system… It's really not perfect, but seems to work a little better than a pure liberal system. Okay Europe has a lot of flaw too: if you want to create a start-up, or do international research or for everything you want to create, you need tons of papers to get and tons of law you need to consider. It's a big complex administration, lacking speed, creativity and competitivity. But did you already forget this past crisis? Just by letting a financial system with not enough state control, millions of people around the world, who had NOTHING to do with finance, had to pay the bill, lost their jobs and suffered a lot…while the responsibles got millions of dollars with golden handshake. You have to let the states take a bigger control in people live, for the main reason that a state won't try to make more and more benefits, like all private companies do. They try to care about PEOPLE (well not always, but that their official purpose), and not ONLY about a dozen of shareholders. But today Im very proud of the USA, you have make a big step to a more fair system. With some luck, Healthcare institutions won't be a moneymaker anymore, just an help for everyone. It will cost less for everyone, and do better (but the way is still long). | |
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It was this guy or John McCain and Sarah Palin. Nuff' said. | |
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Also, let's not allow this thread to get out of control (i.e. the last Obama thread.....) | |
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Gabe you got your flame thread And I for one enjoy my life in socialist communist nazi fascist Europe. This is one of the greatest idea by Obama ever, even if it was only for scaring rush limbaugh to costa rica | |
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"This gives employers money to hire employees, which actually creates jobs. When stimulus money is going to Harvard University so they can develop robotic bees, it is a waste. When money is going to study pig manure, it is a waste." Well gladly Obama is stimulating healthcare, which is helping millions of people, and not spending billions on pig manure, right? | |
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Chuck Norris would be the best president in my opinion, All the countries will be to scared to fight us and the people will be laughing so hard to notice nothing is happening. | |
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You're right, how did we miss it?! The president of the United States duped the entire world, and is in fact a Middle Eastern born terrorist. Good job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index I think you'll find that 9 out of 10 are European, and all of them, maybe not Luxembourg, have National Health Insurance. | |
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President of America doesnt work for the world Drag he works for the U.S. And over 60 % of us are pissed right now. We dont give a flying fuck what u think. So suck it!!! | |
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1.) He has presented it many times. Feel free to send an email to Hawaii. They're still sending copies to people who request a copy. 2.) We don't know if it will be passed. You're not a fortune teller. Who's to say every Democrat will vote for it. Not all of them even voted for the bill in the House. 3.) So what's your point? If it's thought to be unconstitutional it gets pushed before the Supreme Court to judge wether it is or it isn't. If they deem it is unconstitutional the law gets thrown out the window. If they deem it within the rights of the constitution, then so be it. Either way you slice it, the system isn't failing. 4.) It's really just a cheap shot. It's like when I get the extra security check at the airport because my name is Courtney. I know a thing or two about names, and they have a psychological effect on humans. If you had just said Obama, we'd know who you were talking about, or even Barack Obama. Instead you tried to instill fear into people. Unfortunately for you, most of us here are educated enough to know it's a propaganda ploy. 5.) It is a bill that does just that. To say it will destroy your voting rights is just plain idiotic. You're saying because this bill gets passed, means the country will fall into a tyrannical socialistic system? Give me a break... I believe that kind of language falls under Doublespeak, so try not to write like that. Most of us are educated enough to see right through that. 6.) Radicals are everywhere, even on the far right. Remember Timothy McVeigh, he was a very far right activist that went to commit the single most tragic domestic terrorist attack. They are not just on the left side of politics. I'd even be inclined to call you one, if only for the fact you and Dark are the only 2 people on this AOE3 forum and spout about how horrible Obama is. Notice no one here has started anti-Republican or pro-Obama threads. It's just you and Dark. And for what reason? Look I get it. You disagree with a policy or bill being pushed. But you're bringing so many unrelated things to try and make your argument stronger. For instance what does ACORN have to do with this health care bill. Nothing. You take so many things and throw them into an argument. They have no place, if they have nothing to do with you're main topic. Really, I'm not sure what Birthers, Bill Aires, Health Care Reform, and ACORN have to do with each other, and I'd go as far to say they have nothing to do with each other. You on the other hand believe it's what is destroying our country. I just honestly think you're connecting too many pieces that don't fit to one another, and it makes for a weak, and idiotic argument. Look take it from me, if you're not going to post a well justified rant over our Government, don't post it at all. You obviously have very limited knowledge on the subjects, but you're sure as hell ready to protest crap if it's part of the liberal agenda. It's that kind of thinking that makes me believe you truly are an idiot. Maybe if you didn't post it at all I'd think differently of you. This has nothing to do with wether I like Obama or not. I have yet to state my position on the subject. I just think your argument is flawed in too many ways to be taken seriously. And that is it. Maybe if you tried not to take so many unrelated issues, and strengthened your argument I'd be so inclined to agree with you. But as it is now, it's just looks like useless bitching to me. For the record I have never said what I agree or disagree with as far as politics is concerned, but I shall do so now. I'm an Independent, and I side with Republicans on many issues and Democrats on only a few small ones. As for the most recent Health Care Reform bill that was passed earlier, I felt it was the wrong thing for our country. But just because I feel that way doesn't mean I'm going to paint someone as a tyrannical dictator. It's just not an acceptable thing to do. They followed the Democratic process, and it got passed. It's not always the best for the country, but it's far from being a dictatorship, which you imply. So please before you believe I think Obama is a savior, get your facts straight. All I'm bashing is your weak and pathetic arguments, just like I did in the first Obama thread.
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White knight is most likely just copping what he hears from his parents... | |
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I wouldn't say that either JG. He most likely has made up his own mind on these topics. My problem is he attacks the wrong target, or attacks things that have nothing to do with the matter. | |
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I will take off your arguments one at a time. 1.) European socialism fails. You can see it easily in everything. They have a lesser defense, economy, and Europe has more taxation. As for Europe's medical care being better than the US's, that's one big lie. My piano teacher's daughter lives in Belgium for her husbands work and when her baby needed an operation on her heart, they came to the US. They said that Belgium's medical technology is about 20 years behind the US's. Now, with the baby's life at stake, I think they would be picking the best possible healthcare. 2.) Europe has many flaws, you are correct. 3.) Your saying here that the state needs to interfere more in private sector economics. Well, first of all, how do you mean "involve". Do you mean welfare programs? Do you mean wasteful stimulus money? 4.) You said that normal people had to: pay the bill and lose their jobs. What I have to say to this is: the government is not responsible for your employment. I mean what is this? Grown adults needing the government to wipe their ass and find them a job. 5.) May be out of order here, but Europe has better public schools where as we have much better private schools. 6.) This all goes against the United States constitution, which was one of my main points. Europe can do what it wants, screw Europe, because we have to help them every time a fucking wartime enemy like Germany or Japan attack them. The United States constitution says nothing about forcing people to buy healthcare. The United States constitution is for lower taxes and less government in people's lives. My own healthcare reform plan: There definitely needs to be healthcare reform, we can all agree on that. It's whether its done constitutionally or not which is the problem. I think that it would be smart (and constitutional) to allow insurance companies to sell their policies over state lines. This lowers costs because of more competition. The government can just undersell all private insurance companies and then once the insurance companies go under, jack up the price since they are now a monopoly. Please understand that there is less competition with a government insurance plan. With my idea, it would make it more possible for ambitious entrepreneurs to make their own insurance companies which cover pre-existing conditions. Europe can do whatever the hell it wants to with its shitty constitutions and socialist agenda's and luxury item taxes, and then some more taxes and taxes and taxes. Here in the US, we have a constitution, and when radicals like today's democratic Congress and Barack Hussein Obama rip it to shreds, I get pissed off and write twenty minute discussions like this. | |
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So when the hell did Japan start attacking Europe? And when the hell was Germany not part of Europe? Wait... when the hell did America always aide all of Europe? I thought we helped certain countries that lie within Europe... See man. That's what I'm talking about. You're not making your argument look good at all when you say things like that. Really makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about, and quite a few people would say you simply don't. By the way, your version of a reform is way worse than what they passed earlier. You're basically saying companies should be allowed to work across state lines. That's good and all, except it doesn't fix the problem with medication and medical service costing so much. It doesn't aide those that can't afford to even have insurance. And it doesn't fix the problem of rising costs and premiums people have to pay. The health bill fixes more of those problems,although potentially creating different ones, than your half-ass attempt does. And there you go with the name thing again. Really that needs to stop. Not all of us were blessed with the best names.
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ahahahahaha excellent thread. | |
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What bothers me is that u dumb fucks get pissed off over someone calling Obama basically a piece of shit, i guess because it offends u, i have no fucking clue why. Then u kick and scream like a bunch of fucking babies. But when some Nazi mother fucker busts on Jesus or Jews u say nothing because it doesn't effect u. You find it funny? Do u see the hypocrisy?
I bet if i said something like Muhammad slept with a jewish whore i would get more response. Or maybe say something like "i heard one of the 72 women (full breasted) u get when going to heaven based on some interpretations of the koran is oh no it's homos mom." Take note homo, if u want to get a flame thread started, say something about Obama, Muhammad or your jewish mom. That will get them fired up. @ Drag Queen- that polls takes something like 10 different quality of life surveys to factor the quality of life score? Whats that have to do with the healthcare bill? I know, I know, 1/10th. Brilliant post!! I would say something about the healthcare bill but it doesnt matter. I think the # of states that are filing suit against this piece of shit bill is up in the 20's. Even if it gets signed most states are going to tell Obama to suck it! | |
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