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vclan
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Build order:

April 13, 2009 at 5:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

honorius
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I'm not very good with germans but this is a very basic uhlan spam.


The point of the strat is to get many uhlans and continue hunt enemy villies. It is best performed if you got 2 wood crates at start, cause else you will have to less pop.


required cards:


2 settler wagons (discovery)

5 uhlans

palatine settlements


B.O.


discovery

1 settler wagons go eating the crates, the other 2 herd nearest hunts. Keep training villies until you got 16-17 pop. First shipment is 2 settler wagons. When at 800 food age with quartermaster (400 wood). 


Transition

Switch 2 SW and 4 villies to gold. If you want a FB send 1 SW to a appropriate place. 


Colonial


Second shipment: 5 uhlans. Have 1 SW from gold gather the wood from the crats. When at 200 wood let 1 sw build a stable. If it's up you queue as many uhlans as you can. When got another 200 wood send the gathering settler wagon back to gold and let the builder make 2 houses. 

You'll run out of pop space, so 3th shipment is palatine settlements. Keep training villies and uhlans and raid him while you boom with cards such as 3 SW and the SW training card (so you have a sort of tc for 400 wood that trains SW's)

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July 31, 2009 at 5:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

General Sakkis
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Instead  of  2  SW  and  4  Villagers  on  gold  it  is  better  to  put  6  SW

because  of  the  fact  that  SW  deplete  less  gold  than  they  gather

so your mine  will  last  longer.

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November 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

/_MiesVan
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mine in 3v3

100wood-build house

100wood100coin-build market gather 25coin buy 100wood build house(all by SW)

200wood-house+market

17vils

1SW on gold 6settlers on food rest on wood(1vill 4SW on wood, one of the SW should go forward)

do all market upgrade in transition. wood-food-coin maybe. or food-coin

hunting dogs in age1 if you can

when aged all wagons on coin, 2settlers on wood or so

build 3houses asap. you dont need any wood on any other purpose. if you have 100wood go build a house. dont get housed

BUILD TP

2nd: 3SW

3rd: 2SW/700wood/palatine

700wood=another stable, BUILD TP, 2nd food improvement(better than coin one imo)

4th 5th cav card/700coin/8xb/3dopp....


you can actually make 5uhlans nonstop. need a bit practice 

in 2v2 3dopps really works

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November 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

iCourt

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General Sakkis at 09:15AM on Nov 05, 2009

Instead  of  2  SW  and  4  Villagers  on  gold  it  is  better  to  put  6  SW

because  of  the  fact  that  SW  deplete  less  gold  than  they  gather

so your mine  will  last  longer.

To compensate for the 4 villagers, you'd only move 2 more SW to gold, as opposed to 4 more SW. And also note that the depletion of gold mines is only viable for Fan Patch. In vanilla you could do either way with very little change in the economy setup. 

November 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM Flag Quote & Reply

General Sakkis
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My  mistake  2 SW.

And yes I am talking about Fan Patch.

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December 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

/_MiesVan
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i was wrong. takis was correct. Advanced Hot Airballoon is one of the best cards for FF german. USE IT GUYS!!!!!


my card order:

2SW--age--700Coin--House card--age--1000wood(for 3TP :))--1000coin(for uhlan)--1000food(for age up)--Farm card--age--6SW(i was wrong again, 10CDB and 6SW are really good for FF/FI)--factory-factory-HOT AIR BALLOOOOON



conclusion: takis OP

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January 4, 2010 at 2:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

iCourt

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That FF build is wrong for Germans, they don't need the 700 gold shipment. Try aging with 5 Settler Wagons and 7 Settlers, use the 500 food politician. As soon as you click on the age up, immediately move all 5 Settler Wagons to gold. Que up 2 villagers before you age, your population limit should read 19/20, this is important. As soon as you age spam click 3 Settler Wagons, you should have collected 1200 food, and 1000 gold before the 2nd villager has come out. Age with the Skirmisher Politician. You should be hitting Fortress at the same time, with a much better economy than sending 700 gold. Takes a few tries to get it down, but that FF is stronger in the long run. Expect to be in age 3 around 7:20-7:45 min, with a shipment ready to send upon aging.

January 4, 2010 at 3:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

/_MiesVan
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court thats one of the ways to ff...there's no 'wrong' strategy. if you find it 'better,' its ok. its your opinion :-P

i like 2 uhlans with 700coin. its faster(at least for me), safer, and so on.


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January 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM Flag Quote & Reply

General Sakkis
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LOL

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January 4, 2010 at 11:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

iCourt

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Well... 700 gold is only hurting you, so I'd say it is the "wrong" way to FF. If you're so intent on having 2 uhlans before you age, just send 2 Settler Wagons. 2 Settler Wagons still wins over 700 gold, since you should already have all you age up resources collected by the time that shipment comes in. No matter how you try to defend the 700 gold age up, it's just much weaker than sending a Settler Wagon card.

January 4, 2010 at 4:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Magnificen† [£eg¡øn]
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theres one i do where i do 2 SW 3 SW 700 gold age up, and i get a market up as well. that way, you hit age 3 with a fantastic eco in a reasonable amt of time.

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January 4, 2010 at 5:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

iCourt

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Yup, that's another way to do it. But 3 Settler Wagons is still your second card. There's really no reason not to send it. 2 Uhlans really won't make or break an FF strategy. And timing is not that much of an issue, since 700 gold you're waiting for the shipment to come in, while Germans can already have all there resources to age up before that shipment comes in.

January 4, 2010 at 5:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

landers
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iCourt at 05:35PM on Jan 04, 2010

Yup, that's another way to do it. But 3 Settler Wagons is still your second card. There's really no reason not to send it. 2 Uhlans really won't make or break an FF strategy. And timing is not that much of an issue, since 700 gold you're waiting for the shipment to come in, while Germans can already have all there resources to age up before that shipment comes in.

i did not know this. thx for the tip. that means sending 700 gold is like deleting almost 6 vills.

January 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

landers
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for 2 uhlan

January 5, 2010 at 10:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

iCourt

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No, not quite that harsh, since you are still getting 700 gold+2 Uhlans out of it. It's just overall much weaker. You gain more from 3 SW than 700 gold is the point. It's like if you had the choice to send 3 villagers, or 300 food. Obviously 3 villagers is the better choice. It's long term vs short term benefits.

January 6, 2010 at 4:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

/_MiesVan
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long term or short term....

then you think wood trickle of india is better than 600wood just because it'll 'compensate' in 5min? (2wood/sec)

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January 6, 2010 at 4:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

General Sakkis
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IDK if it is better but i sent  the big wood trickle first then 600 wood.

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January 6, 2010 at 6:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Dark Rider
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 settler wagon is a card that i see some ppl dont have in their german deck, just saying its good, meaning age 2 

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January 6, 2010 at 6:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

General Sakkis
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it is good it is equal to 4 normal vills.

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January 6, 2010 at 7:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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